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of virginia to buy health care insurance. they got past that standing. that of any value to you here? any advisory value or it is different? >> it's a little different here. advisory value because one of the key issues is whether we have a statute or not, does the state have a right to have such a statute pre-- preemed by the federal government? i will contend that in fact the state's sovereignty is at question. we have the trite pass a similar law to what they did in virginia. the government has said we are going to preempt this whole area. the other thing that is important the interconnectivity is the law. -- of this whole law. >> greta: usually one section gets knocked out the rest of the statute stands. mr. cuccinelli told me in virginia he has found no severability clause. >> even the government concedes this requirement that you have to buy a policy is at the heart of the law if it goes the entire process, the law doesn't work. we find harm to the state in many aspects of this law. and its connection to the individual m
of virginia to buy health care insurance. they got past that standing. that of any value to you here? any advisory value or it is different? >> it's a little different here. advisory value because one of the key issues is whether we have a statute or not, does the state have a right to have such a statute pre-- preemed by the federal government? i will contend that in fact the state's sovereignty is at question. we have the trite pass a similar law to what they did in virginia. the...
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have you virginia and missouri. also, the funding's being attacked. i don't know how the courts are going to rule. but the funding aspect is being questioned. >> i'm not a lawyer. >> greta: quit bragging! >> but it's a dangerous precedent to allow the united states congress to mandate on you on what product or service have you to buy with your money. it's assumed we can tax and you spend the money. but we have never crossed that line in the commerce clause. >> greta: that's the one thing it wasn't called, a tax in court, and the lawyers are calling it a tax for the government to get it within the taxing power of the government. but the flip side plays games with the words as well. >> here's the problem with the individual mandate. first of all, it's a new penalty and a new mandate, which i believe to be unconstitutional. second, the way this is constructed, you don't have to buy insurance, pay a penalty if you are caught. the penalty, $695. so what logical consumer will buy insurance until they get sick. >> greta: it makes more sense economically to g
have you virginia and missouri. also, the funding's being attacked. i don't know how the courts are going to rule. but the funding aspect is being questioned. >> i'm not a lawyer. >> greta: quit bragging! >> but it's a dangerous precedent to allow the united states congress to mandate on you on what product or service have you to buy with your money. it's assumed we can tax and you spend the money. but we have never crossed that line in the commerce clause. >> greta:...
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joe manchin governor of the west virginia fighting for his life trying to get elected to robert byrd's senate seat thought they should be extend. i've introduced permanent law current tax rate and avoid a tax increase in the middle of a investigation. >> greta: give me a realistic timetable. what is gonna happen ? >> it is hard to answer the hypothetical, because the democrats are in the majority. they got to decide whether they want to have this debate now. it could occur after the election. if they want to have the debate now about the appropriateness of raising taxes in the middle of a recession we are happy to have that debate. >> greta: it is not going to happen is that the message? >> i done know i think it will be up to the majority to decide whether we have this debate now or later. it needs to be had, because at the end of the year, taxes will go up for everyone, none of us think that's a good idea. >> greta: what about what leader boehner said in the house? he said i hate to try to quote him often top of my head, he said if he had to or something, if it came to that, he would
joe manchin governor of the west virginia fighting for his life trying to get elected to robert byrd's senate seat thought they should be extend. i've introduced permanent law current tax rate and avoid a tax increase in the middle of a investigation. >> greta: give me a realistic timetable. what is gonna happen ? >> it is hard to answer the hypothetical, because the democrats are in the majority. they got to decide whether they want to have this debate now. it could occur after the...
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the amount that people contributed so it would be deficit new that is -- deficit neutral, you have virginia, missouri, also that funding is being atack, i don't know how the courts are going to rule, the funding aspect is being attacked. >> i'm not a lawyer -- >> greta: quit bragging! >> it is a dangerous precedent to allow the u.s. congress to mandate to you on what product or service you have to buy with your money. it has always been assumed we can tax you and spend the money. we have never crossed that line in the commerce clause. >> greta: that was the one thing it want called a tax. now in court the lawyers are calling it a tax, interesting. the flip side plays games with the words as well. >> here's the problem with the individual mandate. new penalty on individuals and new mandate which i believe to be unconstitutional. second, the way in is constructed, you don't have to buy insurance just pay a penalty if you are caught. $695. what logical consumer is going to buy insurance -- >> greta: rather game it economically maybe not morally. thank you. >> next, is the government getting in
the amount that people contributed so it would be deficit new that is -- deficit neutral, you have virginia, missouri, also that funding is being atack, i don't know how the courts are going to rule, the funding aspect is being attacked. >> i'm not a lawyer -- >> greta: quit bragging! >> it is a dangerous precedent to allow the u.s. congress to mandate to you on what product or service you have to buy with your money. it has always been assumed we can tax you and spend the...
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was discussion about standing and whether states had passed a law like virginia did that prohibited citizens or states from being required to pay for insurance. there was some discussion about whether any had done that prior to this lawsuit being filed? utah did file it. the judge said it only takes one so maybe it will be utah. most extraordinary today the surprising thing that happened from the government, as you know, this 2700 pages it talks about commerce clause, commerce clause, authority. the judge pointed out that's not what they -- they were saying it is not a tax. she said even the president said this is not a tax. then, the government's attorney says yeah but, it is a tax. >> greta: explain why it makes a difference whether it is called a tax or penalty? lawyers get hung up on words -- ash what is the legal difference in this case? >> what we are talk about is states' rights, 10th amendment versus federal government. this is not in their enumerated power to tax individuals or require to you buy individual insurance. >> greta: the feds do not have? >> do not have that authority. so
was discussion about standing and whether states had passed a law like virginia did that prohibited citizens or states from being required to pay for insurance. there was some discussion about whether any had done that prior to this lawsuit being filed? utah did file it. the judge said it only takes one so maybe it will be utah. most extraordinary today the surprising thing that happened from the government, as you know, this 2700 pages it talks about commerce clause, commerce clause,...
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>> look, the reality is small business owners like business owners we met with this week in virginia are struggling with the rising cost of health insurance. in many cases small businesses and family farmers want to provide health insurance for their employees but they can't afford it. as premiums continue to rise it becomes worse. we need health care reform based on consumer choice. allow the american people and businesses to health insurance across state lines the way they purchase other forms of insurance and you will see a new marketplace develop and costs come down. >> greta: why can't you go across state lines? i heard that from governor pawlenty this week and i heard it a number of times. why can't you shop for your health insurance? what is the impediment is there a legal impediment? >> it is the way it has evolved over time health insurance has been regulated on a state by state basis. essentially it becomes a one-state market for every american. we can reform that. we can allow the american people -- >> greta: why hasn't that happened. i can imagine democrats, republicans t
>> look, the reality is small business owners like business owners we met with this week in virginia are struggling with the rising cost of health insurance. in many cases small businesses and family farmers want to provide health insurance for their employees but they can't afford it. as premiums continue to rise it becomes worse. we need health care reform based on consumer choice. allow the american people and businesses to health insurance across state lines the way they purchase...